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Shinto Sharingan · Dec 08, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

ok heres a few answers to you. i numbered them easily answer them for you.

1. No one else effects what drops you get. unless you are in a group of people who have farmed alot. each time you enter a zone YOU alone effect your drops. yes its been said by anet.

2. most people have been there done that. they get bored of doing that.

3 . see number 2

4. most titles cost lots of money, hmm where do you think people get that.

5. see number 2

6. see number 2

7. maybe they already have all the friends they wish to make.

now im not gonna tell you to do anything or how to play the game, im just gonna say enjoy the game the way you want to, and let people enjoy there game they want to. just beacuse you dont like farming, its quite obvious others do, and no it dont effect you except by making things more availiable and yes cheaper.

1) Green farming is not so, other players do affect the drop rate.
2,3,5,6) Most people haven been there/done that? You can't just say that-unless you mean most of your friends-in which case you must limit your friends to well-accomplished players--close-mindedness.
4) They make it by playing the game. I've been able to afford and obtain all my 15k armor sets (about 8 of them) and perfect/green items (a lot-a few for each of my 6 characters ) by simply playing through the game, helping friends, and some things outlined by my previous post.
The guy is complaining about not being able to farm. I'm only suggesting other things.

Age · Dec 08, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18

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Originally Posted by Sable Phoenix
my point was that ANet, despite what they say, has actually made money problems worse for the average player.

It is not just you average player but the new players now Playing NF as well as know there new players just by thier play stlye.I feel for the new players of the game as how are they suppose to get by with what they get in quests,missions and the occasional good drop.The drop rare as gottenn so bad as when Prophecies was first realeased it was good but now it is so hard to get a an average weapon for your player and all the drops in NF is scythes and spears. What about other weapons?

Sable Phoenix · Dec 08, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

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Originally Posted by The Ernada

I'm not trying to start a fight but come on. Prices don't fluctuate to the degree that you're claiming. Why can't you just admit that the prices that you quoted were just wrong? Prices don't just jump back and forth from 180 gold to 2k on a day to day basis just because of peak hours. If prices went down just because it isnt peak hours than why are the other high priced insignias and runes still the same price as I speak?

As for me missing the point of your post, all I saw was you criticising the insignia system for the wrong reasons and giving out wrong facts, so I had to correct you on that. I completely agree that the prices on the other insignias should go down, but as I said, the insignia system overall is far better than the old system.

I'm sure I mixed up some names, which is why I only listed the three I was sure about in the original post. The prices are still right though, even if I got the names wrong. I know for a fact that it's not just three, as you said, that are ridiculously priced.

I never said the Insignia system is worse than the old system. "Far better" is debateable, but it would be better if the prices weren't so screwed up.

So yes, you did miss the point. Insignia were simply an illustration I was using.

You just got tomahawked · Dec 08, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49

tty for the feedback

manitoba1073 · Dec 09, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by Shinto Sharingan

1) Green farming is not so, other players do affect the drop rate.
2,3,5,6) Most people haven been there/done that? You can't just say that-unless you mean most of your friends-in which case you must limit your friends to well-accomplished players--close-mindedness.
4) They make it by playing the game. I've been able to afford and obtain all my 15k armor sets (about 8 of them) and perfect/green items (a lot-a few for each of my 6 characters ) by simply playing through the game, helping friends, and some things outlined by my previous post.
The guy is complaining about not being able to farm. I'm only suggesting other things.

and all i did was suggest why some dont do what you suggested, and still since you are so convinced that other ppl affect your drops. im looking for the quote from anet when i find it ill post it

Since your not familiar with farmering codes heres a link to a thread that should help you

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...effect%20drops

Spazzer · Dec 09, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41

I skimmed this article and didn't see a single word from someone who remembers the (quite recent) nerf to Spirit Bond done to nerf the PvE farming using the skill.

And leaving competative play with a gimp skill.

I cannot accept a "farming is acceptable" statement on one hand while balance is thrown out on the other to accomodate "in game economy".

ectospasm · Dec 09, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

farming gems in doa isnt farming unless you can do it solo. selling them for 100k each or 40k each isnt farming, its selling them to irresponsible rich people who have either A) bought alot of gwgold from the bot farmers. Or B) are old schoolers who reaped the ecto and stuff during the rollback. Or C) people who trade alot with A&B.
the doa gems in reality arent worth much if anything since it takes so many to aqquire 1 item and some might net you a nice experience scroll thats worth 125-800g. im sure someone has done the math.

And as Spazzer said about Spirit Bond, anets logic and PR are lax and is just mixed BS with a percent of the truth. The game could be more balanced as it is regardless of how many bots there are farming (which people who use bots and/or sell gwgold should be banned. im totally against this now) or a particular area being overfarmed. 0's & 1's go a long way and in the virtual reality you should never run out of gold or items even though its all controlled to keep a mediocre simulated economy. it can always be redefined and made to look as it currently is.

"In fact, our statistics show that 50% of all active accounts have fewer than 10 platinum pieces, and 75% of all active accounts have fewer than 20 platinum pieces. So when we make small tweaks here and there to keep the economy under control, please understand that we’re not trying to make the game harder for the average player. We work hard to understand how normal players play and how extreme players play, and then find just the minimal changes necessary to keep the economy healthy and fair."

This is true for new players. Im sure they are poor, as I once was. Until they figure it all out.. Its not hard to make money from people who have money. But new players who play the game normally shouldnt be reason to make changes that hurt knowledgeable peoples ways to make loads of money fast. Sure it may make items like weapons and offhands higher because people wont be so afraid to spend 300k on something that once cost 100k but thats just tuff. Give anyone enough time, friends, & experience playing for a few months (given the chance that farming was returned to the way it was previously) and they will eventually learn how to make money and get thier weapons too for 300k. Its a never ending trend, for those who are just plain dumb or people who arent old enough to know finances and economics, then it may be a bit harder and take longer and seem unfair. Still no reason to ruin it for the rest of us.

4ssassin · Dec 09, 2006, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Sigh. i seriously dont see why you ppl worry about "Farm this" and "Farm that". I make so much money just by playing the game...im at 700k and i dont farm ever. Course...i have sold 400k faction worth of amber...

manitoba1073 · Dec 09, 2006, 10:06 AM // 10:06

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Originally Posted by 4ssassin

Sigh. i seriously dont see why you ppl worry about "Farm this" and "Farm that". I make so much money just by playing the game...im at 700k and i dont farm ever. Course...i have sold 400k faction worth of amber...

sorry but that is farming in a way. faction farming to a degree.

4ssassin · Dec 09, 2006, 10:14 AM // 10:14

<- makes 100% of his faction off of AB, which he would do even if there was no reward. still, i suppose your right.

manitoba1073 · Dec 09, 2006, 12:57 PM // 12:57

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Originally Posted by 4ssassin

<- makes 100% of his faction off of AB, which he would do even if there was no reward. still, i suppose your right.

its fun farming

You just got tomahawked · Dec 09, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

I wonder... runs to AB

The Ernada · Dec 09, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

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Originally Posted by Sable Phoenix

I'm sure I mixed up some names, which is why I only listed the three I was sure about in the original post. The prices are still right though, even if I got the names wrong. I know for a fact that it's not just three, as you said, that are ridiculously priced.

I never said the Insignia system is worse than the old system. "Far better" is debateable, but it would be better if the prices weren't so screwed up.

So yes, you did miss the point. Insignia were simply an illustration I was using.

I've been checking insignia prices on and off during different periods of the day since yesterday. And still only 3 insignias are even over 1k. Most others are in the 100 to 180 gold range with Radiant being 650. You were highly exaggerating the problems of insignia pricing.

I still dont understand your point so explain please?